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    Default Elgin Wadsworth Pocket Watch, Year? Gold?

    It is an Open-faced, Numbers on inside back of Case: 1280659 4776XX
    On Movement: 13690784 "Safety Pinion"
    Inside rim of Case: 0659

    I am trying to figure out how old it is, what it is made of, and the quality. It does work well and keeps good time.

    Thanks!!
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    Default Re: Elgin Wadsworth Pocket Watch, Year? Gold? (RE: Choatpadda)

    This is what i found on your Elgin watch.

    13690784 13690001 1000 1908 303 12s o3n3p 7j


    Made in 1908.

    A 20 year case is a good case.
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    Default Re: Elgin Wadsworth Pocket Watch, Year? Gold? (RE: Choatpadda)

    Quote Originally Posted by Choatpadda View Post

    I am trying to figure out how old it is, what it is made of, and the quality. It does work well and keeps good time.

    Thanks!!
    The case is gold filled.

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    Unhappy Re: Elgin Wadsworth Pocket Watch, Year? Gold? (RE: Neuron)

    I see that your crystal is turning a yellow/green color. This was typical of the earlier plastic crystals as they aged. The color change is accompanied by a gas discharge that will cause rust, first on the blued steel hands and then into the steel parts inside the movement. It is recommended that these old crystal be replaced promptly to prevent damage.
    The newer plastic crystals will not discolor or cause rust.
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    Default Re: Elgin Wadsworth Pocket Watch, Year? Gold? (RE: rrwatch)

    WOW!!.. U guys are absolutely Fantastic
    U got all that from the Pics! My other question was; it says "Safety Pinion" but it does not sat XXjewels like the others I have seen, like the 17 jewels or 5 jewels, etc

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    Default Re: Elgin Wadsworth Pocket Watch, Year? Gold? (RE: Choatpadda)

    In the information i gave you, it states its a 7 jeweled watch movement.
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    Default Re: Elgin Wadsworth Pocket Watch, Year? Gold? (RE: Kevin W.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Veritas View Post
    In the information i gave you, it states its a 7 jeweled watch movement.

    Oh yes, now I see the j

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    Smile Re: Elgin Wadsworth Pocket Watch, Year? Gold? (RE: Choatpadda)

    Hi Choatpadda:

    Welcome to the NAWCC American Pocket Watch Message Board!

    To add to the good information posted by the others:

    Checking the references listed in the Elgin Watch Co. Encyclopedia article, Elgin movement serial number 13690784 can be seen to be, as was somewhat posted above, an open-face, 12-size, 7-jewel, model 3, grade No. 303, pendant-set movement, built in about 1908-1910. Although modest, this was a very, very popular watch, of which 2,215,000 were built between about 1903 and 1939. You can see a catalog description, along with a picture and were the grade No. 303 fit within Elgin's line of 12-size watches, in the lower, right-hand corner of page E6 of the 1917 Oskamp-Nolting Catalog.

    Your watch case is [url=http://mb.nawcc.org/showwiki.php?title=Case+Material#Gold_Filled] and was made by the Wadsworth Watch Case Co. The "0659" in the rim of the case is just the last four digits of the full case serial number, 1280659. The fainter, "hand-scratched" characters are watch repairers' marks.

    You should have the watch serviced before running it very much. It may be helpful for you to read the Encyclopedia article on Watch Service and its related links, especially the one to the message board thread on the subject. You may also find the following Encyclopedia articles useful in understanding pocket watches and the terms that are used in discussing them:
    Movement Type
    Pocket Watch Jewels
    Watch Grades
    Watch Models
    Watch Size

    Good luck,
    Kent
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