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    Default ID and Dating of my Benrus watch??

    Hello, Newbie here! I have recently acquired a Benrus watch that looks very old. It's not working at present and I don't know enough about it to determine if it is worth the money for repair. Please feel free to post any information you may have about this watch. I have no idea how to open this watch and I don't think I'll attempt it. There are some numbers on the back...ID number or serial number? 141847 . Any information is appreciated

    Thank you!

    Sorry this picture isn't very good. I'll go take some more now.
    ** You can't see in this photo but the glass over the face is raised kind of like there is a glass bubble over the face.
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    Default Re: ID and Dating of my Benrus watch?? (RE: amb123)

    Your watch could date anywhere from the late 1930s to the early 1950s, but I believe it's probably earlier in that range. Benrus typically used good quality Swiss movements from various manufacturers (they didn't make their own movements). While a few Benrus models are considered collectible, most of their time-only watches are not highly sought after.

    The question of whether it's worth it is up to you. While this is not an investment grade watch, it is an attractive piece of good quality. You can generally have a watch like this completely overhauled for less than the cost of a modern fashion watch, and it should give you years of service. If parts are needed, or there is damage to the case, repair becomes more expensive.
    Cary Hurt


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    Default Re: ID and Dating of my Benrus watch?? (RE: Cary Hurt)

    awesome, Thank you!!

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    Default Re: ID and Dating of my Benrus watch?? (RE: amb123)

    I believe (and don't quote me on this) that the term "shock absorber" was a reference to a Benrus-specific modification that allowed the cap jewel on the balance to lift. It was used in the 30's primarily, I think. This case design was aimed at mimicking the rectangular models that were popular whilst using the more common "round" watch movement. I have one similar that houses an ETA 900; you can see the shock absorber screwed to the balance cock.

    We could tell you more if you could get a movement picture; maybe take it to a jeweler and ask them to take the back off for you so you can take a picture?
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    Default Re: ID and Dating of my Benrus watch?? (RE: AbslomRob)

    Oh wow your watch is the closet one I have seen to mine and I have looked at many online. Yes I plan to take it to get it fixed I was told around $56-$70.00 to fix it. I have no idea if this will outweigh the value of the watch I can't seem to find any to compare it to. I did end up finding this ad which looks similar to our watches. The ad indicates shock absorber was available in 1938. http://forums.watchuseek.com/f11/hel...ml#post1724855

    scroll down a bit for the ad. It's cool to see the low prices...

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    Default Re: ID and Dating of my Benrus watch?? (RE: amb123)

    i have recently aquired a benrus 25 jewels self winding on the back it says number 3021 series open thru crystalwas wandering a little bout it

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    Default Re: ID and Dating of my Benrus watch?? (RE: amb123)

    I have a 1938 Benrus ladies watch with serial# 070952. It has 2 Pat#s on it: 1966062 & 2110772. Just wondering the value. From the posts that I've seen, doesn't sound like it's worth much.

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    Default Re: ID and Dating of my Benrus watch?? (RE: amb123)

    Quote Originally Posted by amb123 View Post
    Yes I plan to take it to get it fixed I was told around $56-$70.00 to fix it. I have no idea if this will outweigh the value of the watch I can't seem to find any to compare it to.
    As Cary said this cost is significantly less then a good modern fashion watch. Swiss made watches today will set you back several hundred dollars. The quote is quite good; find out what kind of warranty the watch maker offers on his workmanship. A good one will stand behind his service with about 3 to 6 months on workmanship. Service schedule should be about once every 5 years or so. The modern Swiss are about the same; think about the fact that you get the oil in your car changed on a regular schedule. If you waited until you car came to a halt and wouldn't run prior to a lube job it would be exponentially more expensive. Same idea but smaller scale.
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    Default Re: ID and Dating of my Benrus watch?? (RE: Jack_W)

    shalondria2,

    Welcome to the NAWCC board. Because we are a tax exempt organization, we are forbidden by law from commenting on the specific value of watches. You see the notice "no appraisals" in the upper right side of this page.

    Since you know what you have, the best way to value a watch is to follow the auctions of similar watches on internet sites like Ebay. Late 1930s ladies Benrus watches with 15 to 17 jewels and gold filled cases, should do the job.

    I suppose it is to late to comment on earlier posts, but $56 to $70 for a proper overhaul is too low. Some serious hobby watchmakers may do it for that, but I cannot imagine a qualified professional doing it for this range. If you are in a higher cost of living location, it is not even close. In my rural area you MAY still find someone who will start at $80. Most overhauls run from $120 and up, because the watch usually requires more than just a cleaning.

    My concern is that many so called "watchmakers" take the movement out of the case and remove the dial and then "clean" the watch in an ultrasonic cleaner with a combination cleaning - oiling solution. This is like dipping your engine in a mixture of gasoline and oil and calling it an overhaul.

    A proper cleaning involves taking the movement apart (about 50 of the 150 parts). Cleaning the parts in a watch cleaning solution, followed by several rinses. All pivot holes are hand cleaned with peg wood. Then each part is inspected as the watch is assembled. A microscopic amount of oil is placed in each pivot and the proper kind of oil or grease is used in several locations. Of course, problems are corrected as discovered and there are ALWAYS problems form previous bad repairs or running without oil. Finally the watch is adjusted and timed. This operation takes at least 3-4 hours, sometimes longer if there are major problems.

    Modern oils will last about 7 years, but vintage watches were not water resistant, and thus are not dust resistant. Dust gets into the oil and is an abrasive. Three years is probably a good interval between cleanings. If you do this at this interval, all that will need to be done each time is a cleaning (after the first time, of course).

    Don

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    Default Re: ID and Dating of my Benrus watch?? (RE: Don Dahlberg)

    I also have a Benrus watch I would like to know when it is from. 17 jewel series 9345
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    Default Re: ID and Dating of my Benrus watch?? (RE: Johnny72)

    That last one is seiko made movement for sure.

    Cheers, Watchfixer

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    Default Re: ID and Dating of my Benrus watch?? (RE: Watchfixer)

    Watch fixer,I am not sure if you were referring to my post. Do you have any idea how I can find out the age of this watch? I am interested in owning a "vintage" Benrus. I hope I didn't end up with one that has a non-Swiss movement and after things cheapened in the 70's.
    John

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    Default Re: ID and Dating of my Benrus watch?? (RE: amb123)

    I have a Benrus *** Silver, 25 jewel, automatic, serial number 793A - do the serial numbering system help us determine the age? I haven't read anything concrete on how to date a Benrus. I have know idea how old it is and would like to find out.

    Thank you!

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    Default Re: ID and Dating of my Benrus watch?? (RE: JoeButera)

    Look for a number and mark under the balance. Most movement makers stamp the information there. From there you can look up the movement on Dr Ranfft's archive and that will give you an approximate production date for the movement. Off the top of my head both your's and johnny's look to be 1960's +or- 5 years.
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    Default Re: ID and Dating of my Benrus watch?? (RE: R.G.B.)

    Quote Originally Posted by R.G.B. View Post
    Look for a number and mark under the balance. Most movement makers stamp the information there. From there you can look up the movement on Dr Ranfft's archive and that will give you an approximate production date for the movement. Off the top of my head both your's and johnny's look to be 1960's +or- 5 years.
    Are you sure 'Benrus' put a mark under balance wheel.
    If so what does the mark convey

    Bulova used such marks for certain, but I have not seen idetification marks for Benrus

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